Should Felons Have Voting Rights?

Eric Holder and and whether this is so
you know Eric Holder’s legacy or whether this is
just Eric Holder doing something that he thinks is right or whether this in honour I don’t know if this is a
change in position to this administration but he is pointing out that we have
states in the United States and as such all the
states but it’s a bunch of them where a its its baby well let’s see in Florida Iowa again Kentucky all felons lose all their
rights to vote and then the in see in something Tennessee Mississippi and
Alabama some felons was the right to vote and then in New York California Colorado
it’s alright once you’re on probation you can vote and parolees can vote in most the rest
the country its it’s a its kinda a mishmash and so
Eric Holder is saying any it points out i mean this is served
from their news release up states like Florida Kentucky and
Virginia as many as one in five black adults have been stripped %uh voting
rights I he said his time this is a quote from Eric Holder himself he said the Attorney
General United States america’s is time to fundamentally rethink was the
permanently disenfranchise people who are no longer under federal or state
supervision these restrictions are not only unnecessary and unjust they’re also
counterproductive by perpetuating the stigma and isolation imposed on formerly incarcerated
individuals these but laws increase the likelihood that they will
commit future crimes at worst these laws with a disparate
impact on minority communities echo policies enacted during a deeply
troubled period america’s past attire post-civil war discrimination and
they have their roots and centuries-old concept conceptions of justice that were
too often based on exclusion animus and fear so shareholder course himself
african-american speaking about the impact of that on african-americans a horse Cooper is
himself african-american and a conservative
commentator in it and trying account as a commentator and senior
fellow at the National Center for Public Policy Research National Center .org and Horace welcome back to the program
good afternoon thanks for me on Dec yeah I I’m curious your thoughts on this
it seems that the conservative position I’m in
historically conservatives have been all about you know like like david
Vitter you know after you get busted with a hooker he apologize he promised never to do it
again he confessed his sins and got a standing ovation from his
conservative colleagues the republicans in the united states
senate many walked back into the Senate chamber after that now is running for governor it seems
like the conservative position is to say you paid your debt to society you have
pager price you’ve served your time you’ve been through probation you are now embraced back by society
again would it not be I’ll I think it’s really
true I’m just not clear on example if user from where what prison I will serve senator
Vitter far into in how only serve them well that’s that’s
one of the things he was a rich powerful white guy so he never was prosecuted I but he did confess to a crime who wielded ready he did confess he did
confess to the crime only if they deliver a rich powerful black guy but he was prosecuted but he
missed a beat the charge to and were right to have kept his nose
clean sterile engaging in our future criminality he
would have been allowed to go forward welcomed the idea is a bill clinton-era
holder no no I said OJ Simpson OJ Simpson oh yah yeah I’ll let me know
they had to deal with night with a civil lawsuit and I have I think
if this if and i think is intended to are create
the false impression that the criminal justice system
actually singles out minorities I for treatment
that’s unfair well I’ll let you know after by a horse
for me interrupt you for a second for an actual thoughtful conversation here arm you mention OJ Simpson and I don’t hear from over the book you know
when the when the Irish became white but not for okay well the the basic
premise the book and I think it’s a really fascinating anthropological sociological analysis is that quote
whiteness in america has been defined a whole lot of different ways over the
years and there were long periods in American
history where Irish were not considered white where where high it Jones rockets are dwight
worker were Catholics were not considered white
at where poor people were not considered white that white really was a socio-economic
designation not AV not 8 not not as much a racial
designation during the 1890s the Italian immigrants are not considered white so OJ simpson being very wealthy might be considered if you put it
through a purely socioeconomic lines part about white class in quotes that
that used to be ball about race that now is more about
class and income we think I’m for everything in sight are what I find most attractive about it here that
it demonstrates that the actual he may have isn’t necessarily
going to be the determining factor up your status in american society but I
think mister I holders idea of pursuing this I as if this is the big problem facing
our nation I if his %uh design more arm to energized are disaffected groups if the
thinking that there’s this unjust system in
operation there and if we can set aside the so-called
war on drugs and talk about felony prosecutions in
general I’m back rate that’s robbery arm that a I am breaking and entering with a value of other a couple thousand
dollars they’re couple jurisdictions where that as little as $250 but I’m and most government for over are
a few thousand dollars in damage when one looks at their you’d have to be arguing that the police simply are on interested in felonious
behavior on the part I’ll farm the why to leave well as a tester if you look at drug
arrest assist X for me if you look at drug arrest istics
white sand and afro-american whites are more likely to use pot that
african-americans but after earns her eight times more likely to be arrested
for yeah I have letter for the war on drugs
I think I for valor are a rabbit hole I i’m just talking
about felony activity in general okay and in order to
get a felony drug arrest the amount have to be actually
significantly hot so company in a state that for but
depend on the state that from but you don’t have to do that with
regard to breaking and entering a robbery rape or other kind no I I got my heart of
hearts apart provider of you but we just I just got a one minute cue from Shane
we your heart breaks in this minute we have
left what should we do with people after they paid their debt to society should
we let them vote or not well it is a mistake and I have no
problem with the petition basis I have no problem with the system itself
in this state to let you automatically do it I guess I do have a problem with places
like her but let you vote even absentee even while
sitting in the press why I’m the stolen our society %uh yeah a.m. but yet you’re actions
demonstrate that you’d appreciate that me right but you’re paying your price: no well thumb up these places people pay the price others are the
faces sorry for a lengthy time out and I think
I’ll vermont might do that because matthew lyon got you know john adams sent Matthew line to
jail a seven per month jail cell and ran real Rhiannon successfully for the
election the election 1800 I don’t know bars Cooper is always
interesting conversation National Center .org is the website parts thanks for
being with us today

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  1. There is no good reason to disenfranchise neither inmates nor former felons.
    A society that makes laws, and then strips away the right to vote for certain segments, is not a democracy.

  2. Anyone else having trouble with youtube with the like or not button, plus not marking the videos you just watched  in the history column. I have to reload twice sometimes 3 times for it to  be marked in the history.

  3. ALL US Citizens should have the right to vote regardless of whether they are in jail or recently out of jail…  Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr, etc. all spent time in jail. 

    The idea that just because you broke one law that it makes all of your opinions suddenly invalid is ridiculous. There is a fundamental problem with a State being able take away democracy…

  4. Bringing the Bible into this, many books of the New Testament were written from jail, by the Apostle Paul. Don't forget Jesus was executed, after legal proceedings. Moses killed a man, but fled. So if people can believe that the "word of God" was written, by someone who was convicted of crime, why is that certain people here in the US, who are convicted, cannot be forgiven? It's pure hypocrisy, a behavior that Jesus severely criticized. And didn't he die, so that our 'sins' could be forgiven, according to certain religious doctrines? 

  5. This whole system of Society needs to be Restructured, not from the Top as it has been, but from The Bottom UP, PERIOD!!!

  6. One hazard is that passing legislation or cracking down on a certain type of "crime" (even if it does not harm someone else such as marijuana use) can be used to cull the "wrong" type of voter. As a hypothetical example, republican states could crack down on marijuana users while (as always) letting people drink alcohol in peace if they figured out that marijuana voters were more likely to vote for a democratic president and alcohol drinkers were more likely to vote republican (note I am not saying these contingencies are true or not true, this is just a hypothetical example). You could even implement an increase in such crackdowns around election time for maximum benefit/minimum effort.

    Even crimes with actual victims, we just as well let them vote while in prison. Are there enough murderers and rapists that were they able to vote, we would somehow get officials elected that decriminalize murder and rape? As is always the case when evaluating people whose morals and integrity we loathe, I understand not wanting a murderer to be able to vote, but the ability for government to so easily take away voting rights (which is how we the people keep some form of checks and balances over the government) seems to me to be even more unsettling.

  7. Felons should have gun rights. The hell with voting. Voting only benefit the politicians. Gun rights benefit families seeking protection.

  8. consider this: if the government decides what laws make you a felon, what's to stop them from designating half the population as felons. in democracy the majority rules.

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