Oscar Voters Give Their Honest Opinions About Joker


Joker​ is dividing the heck out of audiences
far and wide, including one very significant crowd: Oscar voters. ​The Hollywood Reporter​ recently spoke
with a number of members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, and like
critics and audiences, they were largely split on the film. First, let’s hear from the crowd that loved
it. One male member of the Members at Large Branch
who saw the film at the official Academy screening noted that the flick was well-received by
the 500 audience members, and said, “I think it’s brilliant. Joaquin Phoenix has never been better. […] I thought that the [director of photography],
production designer and others created the look and feel of the period really well, and
the fact that it has very contemporary themes of economic/class inequities felt just right. Overall, a home run.” A female member of the same branch agreed,
although she admitted that her, quote, “stomach was still churning” the day after viewing
the film. She added, “It made me uncomfortable from the very first
frame to the last, but I thought the movie was extraordinary. It’s the most outstanding performance I’ve
seen in many years […] It’s still early, but I can certainly see myself nominating
it for best picture. And [Phoenix] has to get nominated, or the
actors branch doesn’t know what it’s doing.” A male member of the writers’ branch compared
the film favorably to the last picture to score an Oscar win for an actor portraying
the Joker, saying, “I thought the filmmaking was exceptional
certainly the most innovative superhero movie since The Dark Knight. […] I haven’t seen any of this season’s
‘Academy’ movies yet, but, artistically, I think this film is stronger than many of last
year’s Oscar-nominated films.” Then there was one male member of the producers’
branch who boldly predicted that Joker will deliver come February, saying, “I loved it and it will win Best Picture. I am really bored with all the superhero movies,
but here I really liked it because it’s a great movie before it’s a genre movie.” To say that many of the Oscar voters who spoke
with The Hollywood Reporter were not quite so impressed would be a massive understatement. Those who disliked the film disliked it intensely,
and they didn’t hold back when discussing what they perceived to be Joker’s faults. One female member of the executive branch,
while praising Phoenix’s work, simply couldn’t puzzle out the point of the movie. She said, “Strange, depressing film. I was vaguely mesmerized, but… to what end? I found it severely lacking any specific thematic
point. Great performance and impressive filmmaking,
but a rather unpleasant experience overall.” One male member of the directors’ branch called
the flick a “cynical mess,” one that was not so much influenced by the works of Martin
Scorsese as it was derivative of his works. He said, “I also found it to be more than a bit irresponsible,
in terms of its depiction of both mental illness and violence. […] It also seems the film was made only
to provoke. But I find it isn’t interesting enough to
do that. Subtlety is not the director or lead actor’s
strong suit here. […] Finally, I found the film to be a big
disappointment… and one filled with self-importance.” A male member of the documentary branch stated
that while the film was admittedly well-made, he found it to be downright irresponsible
of the filmmakers to unleash it upon a world in which unhinged, male loners seemingly perpetrate
violence every other day. He said, “Who knows what effect it will have on some
deranged sociopath in today’s climate of gun violence? […] Bottom line: technically an interestingly
experimental genre film that presents a socially dicey spectacle that I found personally repugnant.” Although most Oscar voters’ opinions came
down firmly on one side of the fence or the other, there was a distinct minority that
fell into the “undecided” camp. One male member of the producers’ branch was
befuddled as to how he should vote, even though he personally loved the film. He explained, “I don’t see any reason why this movie should
be out in the universe. There is nothing in it that starts a conversation
it just pours lighter fluid on a conversation that’s staring us in the face every week. […] I don’t know if it should be banned
or it should be given every award!” Another male member of the same branch was
blown away by the film’s technical merits, but nevertheless found it literally too difficult
to watch due to its subject matter, saying, “I found the craft to be stunning on every
level beautiful photography, design, costumes. But I deeply despise the movie. […] We had to drink away our discomfort. […] It was the first movie in history that
was too dark for me.” Based on all of these comments, it seems like
Joker has roughly a 50/50 chance of scoring an Oscar win, and its strongest chance seems
to be in the Best Actor category. With a good number of Oscar voters on its
side, though, it’s possible that the flick could score nominations for its direction
and cinematography, for which its has received pretty consistent praise. It could even buck the odds to score a Best
Picture nomination, and if it does, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that it could
win; at the moment, one online odds maker has the flick dead even with Scorsese’s The
Irishman as the favorites to take home the big prize, according to Bleeding Cool. Perhaps Joker really will get the last laugh
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  1. It doesn't matter if we completely stop making movies with violent content because there will always be unhinged people doing dispicable things. This movie was brilliant and it isn't fair to disregard the movie because of the offchance it might ignite some deranged person that was already teetering on the edge of insanity. We can't blame entertainment for everything.

  2. something that I learned over time… when the critics hate a movie ends up to be a masterpiece! never believe the critics they are too political and live in a Disney world…

  3. The negative critics are bunch of ignorant, self-righteous morons.
    I bet they've watched too much Disney or Pixar movie where everything is rainbows and unicorn~

    Worse yet, THEY ARE the reflection of what The Joker said in the movie: No one's CIVIL anymore. Nothing but bunch of HYPOCRITICAL IDIOTS WHO THINK THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT JUST BECUS THEY GOT MONEY.

    FUCK SOCIETY.

  4. “I found it severely lacking any specific thematic point”… Just wow at that quote.. I’m at a loss for words, not sure what that person watched.

  5. Yeah well I find it "highly irresponsible" that we have a bunch of degenerates and worst kind of people in Hollyweird fake posturing and telling the rest of the world how to behave and what to like.

  6. what if Heath Ledger didnt die will he still won the Oscars??
    This bunch of critics favors fantasy, super heroes, computer effects etc. rather than real acting and reality based film. Critics favors super powers like reading minds, lifting objects rather than how mentally illed person works. Reality is scary but you have to deal with it.

  7. if this was too dark
    imagine if silence of the lambs was released today
    holy shit people would be creaming down their panties screaming "HORROR TOO DARK OMGMGMG"

  8. The movie for me is oscar worthy, but for a joker (superhero movie) not good enough. Seriously without jared leto's joker, phoenix's joker is not better than heath's joker… the movie is good, the acting is good but for me not the best joker….

  9. I bet those Oscar Voters that hate the Joker movie are probably part of the 1% that do not care or see the problems of the rest of society. They are the ones that are called out in this movie, no wonder the hate.

  10. How the fuck is a movie too dark? How is feeling an emotion of repulsiveness, of disgust, of not understanding an acceptable way to downgrade this movie? Movies are art, like many other mediums of it. To assume that just because you are left with a feeling on the negative spectrum of emotions does not make the art bad, it clearly is a negative, darker film. To leave the cinema or to leave this experience saying 'holy shit, that was dark' is not a bad thing. It's a good thing.

  11. They didn't just 'dislike' this movie. They're hiding from the spotlight that this movie shines on them. It's not disturbing….you just are upset about the truth. You're an upperclass human and seeing a poverty-stricken life with mental illness was too much for you to deal with to the point where it grosses you out. You're someone Arthur would have shot.

  12. That critic was right that the movie should be banned. it's just way too uncomfortable and violates our emotional safe spaces………..what a Moron LMAO.

  13. This was an amazing beautiful movie. It really reminded my of looking at an amazing painting or listening to an awesome song. But the scary thing is that something like this might happen in the future. And don’t think I’m criticising on the movie or anything it’s defiantly a 10/10🙃

  14. Jesus, who are these children? Why are the people who are voting for the Oscars traumatized by this movie? Can you imagine getting this job as someone who is as easily traumatized as these idiots?

  15. I'm starting to think that reviewers are going onto the fan reviews on rotten tomatoes too or people that hate the fact people love it are trying to trash it because it went from a good 93% from fan ratings to about 88% in less than a week WHILE the movie had been out for almost 2 months and been seen by most of the population by now that has access to it. The movie is still a solid 95% to me AT LEAST. 100% in actuality but I know every masterpiece has a flaw and I know the flaws from the movie but they're so minimal that they're so easily looked over.

  16. There will always be people to try and put something down and never fully embrace or enjoy anything and hate just to hate. These bad excuses for how it’s a bad movie is fucking pathetic. Joker is honestly one of the best movies I have ever seen 13/10. If you can’t understand or derive the meaning of the film…. I’m sorry but your just lost and don’t know what good cinema is.

  17. I really hope this masterpiece gets nominated in all categories! Joaquin is long overdue for that long-awaited for Oscar!!!

  18. RDJ lost his Oscar in 2009
    Because of Heath Ledger's joker
    Is RDJ going to lose his Oscar
    Because of Joquin Phoenix's joker??
    👇……( 1 like=1 Yes )
    but wait wait ✋✋✋
    critics – it is too dark for me Let's give oscar to RDJ , yeah yeah 💥💞👏👏👏👏👏👏we are happy.
    Joker fans – Now I know why everyone is So rude
    because they fu*kin get deserve this 💥🔫

  19. "Joker is dividing the heck out of audiences" no it's not, audiences love it. Critics hate it. Critics are less than 1% of the audience.

  20. You can tell the members in the academy who work for the media, pretending not to understand the point of the movie. Unless they really are that thick… It's holding a mirror up to the media.

  21. Never supported d academy …….. so if the Joker wins awards or not….. fuk em….. its d best picture I've seen in the past couple of yrs………. absolutely awesome picture….n actor

  22. dark and depressing does not a movie make. shawshank redemption: dark, depressing, with hope. the nolan batman trilogy: dark, depressing with hope. joker: dark, depressing with sh!t. eat it up if you want. i’ll pass.

  23. Some people's stupidity level is out of this world. Tons of movies that have killing, shooting, gut and brain splashing all around, "no problem just a movie". Joker has a mental illness, kills 5 people sjws are going fucking nuts. What a load of fuc&£ng bafoons…..go watch Frozen.

  24. One of the best movies I have seen …..not for sensitive feminine men ……sick of hearing them whine about it already.

  25. Anyone who says they dont like it is either lying or someone who is in denial about this accurate depressing reality for people who arent born with a spoon up their asses

  26. uh, audiences aren't divided on this movie, lol, even saying that is laughable, I mean, I'm sure you've already seen the audience scores on RT, Google, IGN, Metacritic, etc.

  27. If this is the darkest movie in the history then u need to step down from ur job as a critic.
    Ever watched ladder, edden lake, etc?

  28. If you found the joker "lacking any specific thematic point" then I'm happy for you. I'm glad that you're fairly well off with no trauma and no serious physical or mental illnesses to speak of

  29. I hate this stupid reinvention of the art causes violence argument every decade. It was music in the 90s video games in the 2000s and were at movies now. Art is not the cause of the violence in our society. It is an examination of it.

  30. Since when was Joker a "divided film" by the audience? I mean, it's top-20 (and easily so) IMDB flick and has overall outstanding ratings by viewers. I get that it's mixed with pro's, but the general population has been more than happy.

  31. It's a beautiful film, if you don't like it, you don't understand art. You're probably a sheltered liberal that has no clue what the world is realy like.

  32. One of the best movies and acting of all time!!!
    What is the name of the background music?
    I love the sounds in the looper videos!

  33. you're not the target audience oscar people you couldn't relate one bit to this movie it's too dark and depressing for you witch can't be real and you can't understand it

  34. Those voters who claim they didn't understand the movie or it was too dark are either hypocrites who did some bad shit in there lives, or they're the clueless softy high class type of people in the joker movie. Either way it's a goddamn masterpiece. Stop making it political you dumb fucks.

  35. Wait only 10 years most of the people will have a gun. The world will full with violenc. Only rich people will can afford food. What makes human more angry an angry belly.50% people will have a gun to fill their empty belly.Those critics & bs rich will know what is violence.

  36. y’know, while i don’t agree with quite a bit of the negative opinions, i really really appreciate that they’re well told and don’t talk down to you at all. some of the most rational and level-headed criticisms i’ve seen of the movie, that you can’t get mad, whether you love or hate it.

  37. If The Joker was "too dark" (based on a made up character) I suggest that these oscar voters never watch Grave of The Fireflys.

  38. So, some critics say because this has gun violence, it will influence our society….
    I have heard those words…
    Dear god…….

    FUCK OFF, BOOMERS

    But overall, the movie's suppose to be dark, depressing, and make you slightly uncomfy, its suppose to be showing you the realism, its not 16+ without a reason. I am a massive dumbass, and even i realise that before a professional movie critic? Dayum

  39. The critics have never had to deal with mental illness or suffering in general they don’t get the movie at all they never will

  40. Expert cinema judge: 'Depth? Character development? Open to interpretation? wtf is this?? JUST TELL ME WHAT TO THINK!!!'

  41. I went to watch this movie with a lawyer, a doctor and a marketeer. I was very excited, so yes, I watched it three times and wanted everyone to experience it as well. The doctor came along and was mesmerised by the realistic depiction of a man suffering from mental disorders. The lawyer was convinced he once defended a very similar man and told me he ended up in jail instead of a psychiatric hospital. The marketeer just looked me in the eye and asked me what was wrong with me.

    I feel like this movie only talks to people who are not afraid to know the world for what it is.

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