Chaffetz explains why Pelosi hasn’t held a formal vote on impeachment


♪.>>IF HE TAKES THE RISK OF GOING TO TRIAL AND HE IS CONVICTED THAT COULD BE SEEN AS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.>>IF HE IS NOT A LEGITIMATELY ELECTED PRESIDENT IN YOUR MIND THERE ARE TOOLS THAT CONGRESS HAS.>>I THINK WE’RE IN IMPEACHMENT TERRITORY FOR THE FIRST TIME.>>IN YOUR VIEW DOES THAT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.>>WHATEVER THE WHITE HOUSE THOUGHT IT WAS DOING TO DEFEND ITSELF OR FEND OFF IMPEACHMENT –>>IMPEACHMENT. STEVE: THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT. JASON CHAFFETZ FORMER HOUSE GOVERNMENT REFORM COMMITTEE AND AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK, THE LIBERAL SCREAM TO UNDERMINE TRUMP, THE GOP AND OUR REPUBLIC. THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING IMPEACHMENT. NANCY PELOSI IS TALKING ABOUT INQUIRY, WHY HAVEN’T THEY HAD A VOTE?>>THE VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT. NANCY PELOSI GOES BEFORE THE WORLD IT IS INFORMAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY BUT SHE DOESN’T HAVE A VOTE. BECAUSE IT FAILED THREE TIMES F THEY DID HAVE A VOTE, MINORITY COULD GET RIGHTS. THEY WOULD HAVE SUBPOENA AUTHORITY. NANCY PELOSI DOES NOT WANT DOUG COLLINS, THE MINORITY MEMBER ABOUT, THE RANKING MEMBER ON HOUSE JUDICIARY TO ALSO TO DEFEND AND TO HAVE SUBPOENA AUTHORITY. STEVE: RIGHT NOW IT IS LOPSIDED.>>IT IS LOPSIDED. THEY WANT TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS, WANT TO DO ALL THIS, BUT DON’T WANT TO GIVE THE MINORITY TO ACTUALLY DO THE SAME THING. THAT IS WHY SHE REFUSES TO DO THAT. AINSLEY: IF HE IS ABLE TO DO THAT, WHEN HE IS ABLE TO DO THAT, WHO WILL BE SUBPOENAING?>>A WHOLE HOST THE PEOPLE. HUNTER BIDEN SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN. YOU COULD GO THROUGH A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS. LET’S FIND OUT, DO SOME INVESTIGATION. SOMETIME FOR REPUBLICANS TO PLAY OFFENSE. REPUBLICANS ARE USED TO APOLOGIZING AND TRYING TO JUSTIFY. NANCY PELOSI AND THE DEMOCRATS THEY’RE ALWAYS PLAYING OFFENSE BUT NANCY PELOSI KNOWS THAT SHE HAS GOT TO WITHHOLD THAT ABILITY OF THE REPUBLICANS TO ACTUALLY DO WHAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS CREATE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CASE. BRIAN: RIGHT AWAY THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER BUT NOTHING WOULD RISE TO THAT LEVEL. WHY DO YOU THINK THIS UKRAINIAN CONVERSATION, EVERYONE SEEMED TO BE IN SYNC FROM CERTAIN MEDIA OUTLETS TO SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, BEFORE THE CALL WAS RELEASED, BEFORE THE NINE-PAGE COMPLAINT WAS OUT?>>IT IS A LITTLE TOO CONVENIENT THEY HAD A PERFECTLY DRAFFED DOCUMENT. YOU HAD A SPEAKER WHO SAID ON “60 MINUTES” HAD A PREVIEW OF IT. VANYA ADAM SCHIFF SAID HE KNEW IDENTITY OF THE WHISTLEBLOWER. IT’S A LITTLE TOO CONVENIENT. INSPECTOR HOROWITZ AND DURHAM COMING OUT. BRIAN: WITH A COUNTER NARRATIVE ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION OF DONALD TRUMP BUT THIS, THEY HOPE PUN INTENDED TRUMPS THAT?>>WELL LOOK, IF ADAM SCHIFF REALLY HAD THE GOODS ON THE PRESIDENT HE WOULD HAVE LED WITH THAT. INSTEAD, HE TO EMBELLISH WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID, LIE ABOUT IT. BY THE WAY THE HOUSE SHOULD STAND UP FOR ITSELF. KEVIN AMERICA CART THINK SHOULD DEMAND SHOULD HAVE TAKEN WORDS DOWN IN THAT COMMITTEE. YOU CANNOT DISPARAGE THE PRESIDENT. YOU CANNOT ADDRESS THE PRESIDENT. THERE ARE HOUSE RULES THEY SHOULD GO AFTER THIS GUY, HE SHOULD BE CENSURED SCHIFF SHOULD. BRIAN: WHAT GUY?>>SCHIFF. HE DID THE PARODY EMBELLISHED. HE LIED ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID. I DON’T KNOW IF IT IS TREASON. IT IS IN VIOLATION OF HOUSE RULES. THEY SHOULD CALL IT OUT AND PASS ON THAT. BRIAN: HE WAS READING FROM A PAPER AS IF IT WAS DIALOGUE.>>THIS WAS HIGHLY SCRIPTED. THIS WAS NOT SOME I AM PROBLEM TU THING, HE DID IT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE ISN’T THERE. THE EVIDENCE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE TO GO OUT — AINSLEY: WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? WHEN WILL THE VOTE HAPPEN.>>SUCH URGENT NATIONAL CONCERN THEY HAD TO GO ON RECESS FOR TWO WEEKS SO DEMOCRATS CAN DO POLLING TO FIGURE OUT, LET’S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE’RE GOING NEXT. BRIAN: 50/50 WHETHER THE PEOPLE WANT IT.>>I DON’T THINK SO. STEVE: REALLY INTERESTING HOW YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY DID NOT TAKE A VOTE. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. CHECK AT HESS NEW BOOK. IT IS CALLED, “POWER GRAB.” BRIAN: REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE WHAT IS GOING ON NOW.>>THIS IS CHAPTER ON

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